“It’s Not Torture When We Do It” – How the CIA Has Lost Our Nation’s Trust


Totally not a form of torture. Stay calm citizen I’m sure they’ll never let the police do this.

Anyone in their right mind understands that causing someone to think they’re drowning, or shackling them to a wall for extended periods, or any of a number of other torment-causing actions are defined as “torture.”

At least, anyone outside of the CIA.

While the CIA directors and former heads complain that congress was fully aware of its methods in the time after 9-11, we have to ask ourselves as a nation if, fundamentally, it really matters if congress was aware – indeed, even asking whether legitimate intelligence was garnered from such practices may be a bit outmoded, considering the use of torture contravenes our own laws as well as those established not just by the USA but its allies, specifically to prevent the kinds of horrors perpetrated on all sides during the Second World War.

Thankfully for the CIA most veterans and civilians alike that remember those butcherous days, or those of the trenches, or even those of McCarthy, are dead, and those still alive often incapable of warning us all about how very dark the path is that we tread down when we exchange our moral virtues and social beliefs (for example, not torturing people) for mere usefulness – especially when the intel received from it is probably not useful at all.

The cretins at the CIA and in other branches of dubious espionage-and-drug-laden-bureaus and agencies know full well that such acts violate our laws – but then the government was also well aware that using drone strikes on our own citizens, regardless of whether they’re overseas or not, is also in contradiction with our legal system, our constitution, and our moral values.

Remember citizen, this is just an Arab so, it's ok!

Remember citizen, this is just an Arab so, it’s ok!

Perhaps it’s naive to consider the preservation of liberty and morally upright behavior important in today’s world – what would have once been considered degenerate lunacy is now labeled a form of necessity – a fake pragmatism that these groups trot out every time they do something wrong. Interned Japanese citizens and violated the constitution? That’s ok, they might have been spies. Let’s apologize three decades later and act like it wasn’t important. Torturing possibly innocent people to get intelligence that might not even be reliable?

“That’s fine,” says the CIA, greedily rubbing its cocaine-tainted hands together, “after all its not like anyone has ever seriously considered cutting our budget.”


If you oppose this you’re unpatriotic and probably a terrorist.

In the post 9-11 era (if you can consider this one event so important as to mark a new epoch where me must forego all liberty, all privacy, and all moral consideration) it’s understandable that a frightened, easily duped congress was willing to give the powers of an emperor to Bush, and now to Obama, who appears to have been misled by the CIA – which may sound like a democratic cop-out, except that it’s probably true; the micromanager in chief has been anything but solid at managing crisis, and his management skills in general are mediocre at best. It might almost behoove him to admit he was lied to and beg forgiveness from the hundreds of people tortured often without legal cause.

What’s infinitely worse is that this sort of behavior by any government typically precedes the use of similar draconian methods amongst its own population – this has been the case whether you’re speaking of a tinhorn communist dictatorship or a theocratic regime; and abducting foreigners and torturing them is behavior one might expect of, say, North Korea or Iran – so how can we, as Americans, even complain about their own draconian behavior, when our own government has been doing the same thing?


We might as well start using these too. Maybe the metal is too expensive.

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